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King Kai - did he get weaker?
Topic Started: Jul 26 2013, 05:13 PM (3,699 Views)
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This is kind of a strange theory, but I think there is something interesting here. Remember this part from Battle of Gods?
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Beerus complains about how small Kaiō’s planet is, but Whis points out that it only got so small because Beerus destroyed it long ago, after losing in a game of hide-and-seek.
King Kai's planet used to be a lot bigger. You know that that means? It had a lot more gravity before. Yeaah. That means that King Kai used to be able to withstand much more gravity than he can now, right? Maybe he had a PL above 100,000 before or something.

What you think?
Edited by IllogicalGlory, Jul 26 2013, 05:21 PM.
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Why would the gravity be heavier?
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I think it's conjecture to say he was that much stronger before.
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10x gravity expanded across Planet Plant.
Edited by Professor Gohan, Jul 26 2013, 05:18 PM.
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Earth is much bigger and it has 10x less gravity.
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It all depends on the atmosphere, and if his planet was in the exact same spot, just bigger, the gravity would be the same.
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Jul 26 2013, 05:15 PM
Why would the gravity be heavier?
Because the planet would have more mass. That small chunk has 10g, which means it has ten times the mass that Earth does. Right?
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the strength of this field at any given point is proportional to the planetary body's mass
Kai's planet had more mass before it was blown up, therefore it must have had more gravity.
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Earth is much bigger and it has 10x less gravity.
It doesn't matter how big it is, each chunk of Kai's (that's the same size as it appears in the manga) must have 10 times the mass of Earth.
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Bringing physics into DBZ doesn't usually work. Kaio's planet had 10x gravity for plot purposes.
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Jul 26 2013, 05:21 PM
Bringing physics into DBZ doesn't usually work. Kaio's planet had 10x gravity for plot purposes.
There's nothing to say that it didn't have ten times the mass of Earth.
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Well, the mass is one thing, but what about the distance?

Gravitation is one of the four fundamental interactions of nature, along with electromagnetism, and the nuclear strong force and weak force. Gravitation is the only of these interactions that affects any matter.[1] In modern physics, the phenomenon of gravitation is most accurately described by the general theory of relativity by Einstein, in which the phenomenon itself is a consequence of the curvature of spacetime governing the motion of inertial objects. The simpler Newton's law of universal gravitation postulates the gravity force proportional to masses of interacting bodies and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. It provides an accurate approximation for most physical situations including calculations as critical as spacecraft trajectory.
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Jul 26 2013, 05:22 PM
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Jul 26 2013, 05:21 PM
Bringing physics into DBZ doesn't usually work. Kaio's planet had 10x gravity for plot purposes.
There's nothing to say that it didn't have ten times the mass of Earth.
Prove that it does. Find evidence that it weighs 10x more than the earth.
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What about Planet Vegeta?!
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Jul 26 2013, 05:24 PM
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Jul 26 2013, 05:22 PM
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 26 2013, 05:21 PM
Bringing physics into DBZ doesn't usually work. Kaio's planet had 10x gravity for plot purposes.
There's nothing to say that it didn't have ten times the mass of Earth.
Prove that it does. Find evidence that it weighs 10x more than the earth.
It could be smaller but have more mass like a bowling ball has more mass than a balloon because a bowling ball is more dense.
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Jul 26 2013, 05:21 PM
Bringing physics into DBZ doesn't usually work. Kaio's planet had 10x gravity for plot purposes.
. . . And considering that King Kai's planet is approximately 300x smaller that the moon whose gravity is 6 times weaker than that of Earth's, it's gravity would be 2000x weaker than that of Earth's.
A gravitational force which would attract matter at least the size of a hair.

So, yeah, don't apply those kinds of physics that are for plot purposes. :p
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Jul 26 2013, 05:25 PM
What about Planet Vegeta?!
Wasn't that one ten times bigger than Earth too?
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Prove that it does. Find evidence that it weighs 10x more than the earth.
It has ten times the gravity?

I'm not sure what the issue with distance here is. Basically, the farther you are from the gravitational force, the less it exerts on you, as far as I can tell. That doesn't affect how much gravity there is in the first place.
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